Science Education and the “Quest For Right”
By Irreligiosity on May 11, 2008 in Around the World, Atheism, Basic Biology, Christianity, Creationism, Education, Evolution, Featured, Flawed Logic, Fundamental Hubris, Historical Perspective, Intelligent Design, Morality, Politics, Pseudoscience, Rational Thought, Religion, Science, Secularism, United States
After my post concerning the Alabama legislature the site was visited by C. David Parsons, author of a seven-volume textbook called The Quest for Right that claims to finally provide a synthesis of science and the Bible. Now that I’ve read through his site I’ll have more to say about Quest for Right in future posts, but for the moment I’ll start with the excerpt from his book that he so helpfully copied and pasted in the comments:
“The National Center for Science Education is antichrist.”
Just about anything that is said afterwards can be discredited by this first sentence alone. This is a debate about whether or not religion should be taught in public schools under the guise of Intelligent Design. Intelligent Design has been proven time and again to be a slapdash repackaging of creationism in secular sounding terms in a feeble attempt to get it into science curriculum. The National Center for Science Education isn’t antichrist, they’re simply asking that science curriculum reflects the separation of church and state that was established with the founding of this country. To call the NCSE antichrist is to call America and most of the founding fathers antichrist while at the same time revealing your true religious motives right from the get go.
“Text taken from The Quest for Right, a 7-book series on origins based on physical science, the old science of cause and effect:”
As far as I know science is still operating under the same old system of theorize, test, modify, and test again until you get it right or get as close to right as is possible with current technology and methodology. It’s the same system that has been in use since the beginning of the Enlightenment, and it’s the same system that has consistently validated ideas like evolution that have gotten your panties in such a twist. Could it be that you’re hearkening back to the pure science of the dark ages that served humanity so well for so long?
“Special note on obstructionism: In 1916, one thousand scientists were polled as to their belief in a deity (i.e., God). Of the ones responding, 60 percent had no religious belief. A follow-up study 80 years later revealed that the percentage of atheists, someone who does not believe in or denies the existence of God, among scientists remains shockingly high: 78 percent of physicists, 58 percent of biologists, and 55 percent of mathematicians are atheists.”
This is one of the biggest gripes that I have with modern religions. Why is it shocking that scientists don’t believe in God? Why is this such a scandal? Why do the religious have this impulse to convert everyone around them to their particular belief system? In short, who cares if they don’t believe in God? It doesn’t surprise me that a good deal of scientists don’t hold a religious belief one way or the other. Their whole life revolves around coming up with a suitable cosmology that is based on observable evidence and rigorous testing, which is something that no religion in the world can stand up to. There is no case for God other than taking it on faith, and you’ll forgive me if I prefer scientists who question the world around me rather than taking it at face value based on ancient and outdated tribal morality.
”Sixty percent of those polled by the University of Georgia historian Edward Larson snubbed Judaism, Islam, and Christianity by equating “belief in a deity and an afterlife with superstition based on fear and wishful thinking.” Nature, 4-09-1997″
At the risk of sounding pedantic, here is the dictionary.com definition of superstition:
1. a belief or notion, not based on reason or knowledge, in or of the ominous significance of a particular thing, circumstance, occurrence, proceeding, or the like.
2. a system or collection of such beliefs.
3. a custom or act based on such a belief.
4. irrational fear of what is unknown or mysterious, esp. in connection with religion.
5. any blindly accepted belief or notion.
Sounds like religion fits the definition of superstition perfectly! Moving on.
“Even more disturbing, only 10 percent of those polled “expressed an intense desire for immortality” (that is, going to heaven), thus, signifying that on the average only 10 percent of physicists, biologists, and mathematicians are under covenant.”
Again you’re showing your ass by revealing your true motives. Basing an argument against science on the fact that scientists aren’t “under covenent” is ridiculous. Freedom of religion means they have the freedom to no religion, but that shouldn’t affect how they do their job either way. Ethical scientists have their own system, the scientific method, that has done pretty well so far.
“The great majority (90 percent) have little or no regard for God but, rather, oppose Him, promoting the error that the earth and all that is in existence happened by chance. The mystical tenet governs every aspect of academic science”
There is a subtle but very distinct difference between actively opposing God and teaching a cosmology that has no room for God, though that’s a distinction lost on the religious. If an experiment was carried out tomorrow that proved once and for all that God did exist then that would be put into the science textbooks, but so far the almighty creator of the universe has been strangely silent for the past five thousand years. Science teachers aren’t actively trying to convert their classrooms to radical atheism, they are simply teaching the sum total of centuries of scientific inquiry. It’s not the scientists’ fault that God hasn’t shown any evidence of his existence once in all that time, and it isn’t the teacher’s job to teach religion to students. Religion and schools are separate, and that’s how it should be. If you’re interested in theocracy then you can move to Iran where they’re more welcoming to that brand of close-minded thinking.
“To the point, obstructionists: scientists, biologists, mathematicians, and the NEA, teach the innocents within the classroom that there is no God.”
Again, God and religion shouldn’t be taught in the classroom. We are a secular society that has the basis for that secularism written into the Constitution. I for one am glad that I live in a society where freedom of inquiry and freedom of thought is considered a basic human right that is part of the highest law in the land. Otherwise we might live in a world where creationist theocrats such as C. David Parsons got their way and stifled true understanding of the universe with a tragically limited cosmology written by primitive nomads six-thousand years ago.
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C. David Parsons | May 13, 2008 | Reply
“It’s not the scientists’ fault that God hasn’t shown any evidence of his existence once in all that time…”
“The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.” — Psa 53:1
Of a truth, those scientists who sought wisdom through their own devices (as electronic interpretation, the insidious spectroscope, and so-called absolute dating systems), have been denied said wisdom. Instead of seeking true knowledge from the Wisdom Giver, they turned aside unto fables, called “quantum mysticism.” The following blog from an atheist’s website sums up the matter:
“The Quest for Right”: A Creationist Attack on Quantum Mechanics.
By Stephen L of the newsgroups.derkeiler.com
Here’s a different take on creationism/ID: “The Quest for Right,” a multi-volume series on science, attacks Darwinism indirectly, by attacking quantum mechanics:
“American Atheists base their reasoning on Quantum Interpretation, hand in hand with Quantum Mathematics. Summoning the dark forces of quantum mysticism, with mathematical incantations, possesses the power to bewilder, and thus con, the average persons seemingly at will, into believing the bizarre and surreal: Z Particles, Neutrinos, Leptons, Quarks, Weak Bosons, etc. Mystics attempt to pass off quantum abuses as legitimate science, by expressing the theories in symbolic fashion. These formula represent the greatest hoax ever pulled upon an unsuspecting public….The objective….is to expedite the return to classical physics, by exposing quantum dirty tricks. That is, unethical behavior or acts,…to undermine and destroy the credibility of Biblical histories. These dirty tricks include: Absolute dating systems, Big Bang Theory, Antimatter, and Oort Cloud. These…have no further station in Science.”
http://www.questforright.com
A more sophisticated way to argue against Darwin is certainly to argue against modern physics. Without modern physics, you lose astrophysics too, which enables the author to make the case for YEC [young earth creationism]. The author goes on to “prove” that things like red supergiant stars and X-ray pulsars don’t really exist, except in the imagination of scientists.”
End of quote.
The several volumes are based on the written word of God, which is an in-depth science book. “Teachers and students will rejoice in the simplicity of earthy phenomena when entertained by the new dicipline.”
Irreligiosity | May 13, 2008 | Reply
The written word of God isn’t science. It’s hearsay slapdash morality passed down from superstitious tribes to gullible and credulous masses over the ages. Your entire flawed premise seems to be based on the simple fact that you can’t understand basic scientific principles, so the idea of you writing any sort of seven-volume science textbook is laughable. If you’d like to debate about this then I welcome your comments, but if you persist in just copying and pasting from your press kit then I’m going to start deleting.
C. David Parsons | Jun 2, 2008 | Reply
Suck it bitch.