Comments on: California Courts Defend the Rational http://www.irreligiosity.com/2008/03/07/california-courts-defend-the-rational/ Because heresy is a victimless crime. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:28:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Irreligiosity http://www.irreligiosity.com/2008/03/07/california-courts-defend-the-rational/#comment-23 Irreligiosity Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:16:36 +0000 http://www.irreligiosity.com/2008/03/07/california-courts-defend-the-rational/#comment-23 I could give two shits about who started home schooling. Maybe it was liberals, I can't really tell for sure because A) who started homeschooling has no bearing whatsoever on the way that Christian fundamentalists have co-opted the system for their own twisted ends and B) you didn't really provide links to anything to back up your claims. And it isn't a teacher's certification, just an accredited tutor or teacher. Read the article before spouting off, maybe? Although honestly, what's so bad about requiring that people be taught by teachers? Homeschooling as it is has been turned into a religiously motivated joke, so clearly the system isn't working as intended no matter who originally started it and what their intentions were at the time. I could give two shits about who started home schooling. Maybe it was liberals, I can’t really tell for sure because A) who started homeschooling has no bearing whatsoever on the way that Christian fundamentalists have co-opted the system for their own twisted ends and B) you didn’t really provide links to anything to back up your claims.

And it isn’t a teacher’s certification, just an accredited tutor or teacher. Read the article before spouting off, maybe?

Although honestly, what’s so bad about requiring that people be taught by teachers? Homeschooling as it is has been turned into a religiously motivated joke, so clearly the system isn’t working as intended no matter who originally started it and what their intentions were at the time.

]]> By: John http://www.irreligiosity.com/2008/03/07/california-courts-defend-the-rational/#comment-21 John Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:48:53 +0000 http://www.irreligiosity.com/2008/03/07/california-courts-defend-the-rational/#comment-21 Additionally, it's interesting to see that you are as eager to use the state to force Christians to raise their children your way as they were to "Christianize the Catholics" and other such nonsense proffered as a reason to START public schools in the first place. (Look it up, it's fascinating) Additionally, it’s interesting to see that you are as eager to use the state to force Christians to raise their children your way as they were to “Christianize the Catholics” and other such nonsense proffered as a reason to START public schools in the first place. (Look it up, it’s fascinating)

]]> By: John http://www.irreligiosity.com/2008/03/07/california-courts-defend-the-rational/#comment-20 John Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:45:19 +0000 http://www.irreligiosity.com/2008/03/07/california-courts-defend-the-rational/#comment-20 Even if you think minimum requirements or some sort of regulation makes sense, a teachers credential is just stupid. It takes 5 years full time to get one, it expires in 5 years if not used in a school setting and is limited to a specific subject or grade. There isn't a teacher in the state who has the certification to teach a child from K-12. Not to mention, a teach is credentialed to teach 30 or so students they have never met, have very limited influence over, and cannot tailor the pace or content to the students' interest or ability. This is orders of magnitude more dificult than teaching one child who you've known all their life in a setting that is entirely within your control. To suggest otherwise is offensive to teachers! Finally, homeschooling was actually first pushed within LIBERAL communities as a way to make sure their chldren where not brought up (in an earlier age) in a way THEY found objectionable. Now, perhaps more conservatives do it, but I have known many liberal minded homeschoolers even today. Even if you think minimum requirements or some sort of regulation makes sense, a teachers credential is just stupid. It takes 5 years full time to get one, it expires in 5 years if not used in a school setting and is limited to a specific subject or grade. There isn’t a teacher in the state who has the certification to teach a child from K-12.

Not to mention, a teach is credentialed to teach 30 or so students they have never met, have very limited influence over, and cannot tailor the pace or content to the students’ interest or ability. This is orders of magnitude more dificult than teaching one child who you’ve known all their life in a setting that is entirely within your control. To suggest otherwise is offensive to teachers!

Finally, homeschooling was actually first pushed within LIBERAL communities as a way to make sure their chldren where not brought up (in an earlier age) in a way THEY found objectionable. Now, perhaps more conservatives do it, but I have known many liberal minded homeschoolers even today.

]]> By: the chaplain http://www.irreligiosity.com/2008/03/07/california-courts-defend-the-rational/#comment-19 the chaplain Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:24:51 +0000 http://www.irreligiosity.com/2008/03/07/california-courts-defend-the-rational/#comment-19 This is basically a good move by California. Home schoolers should be required to meet some sort of minimum academic qualification. I'll do some more thinking about curriculum requirements before writing about that can of worms. :) This is basically a good move by California. Home schoolers should be required to meet some sort of minimum academic qualification. I’ll do some more thinking about curriculum requirements before writing about that can of worms. :)

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